For example I have an idea to serve customer request which lets businesses handle a greater variety of customers or an idea which helps customers achieve what they want easier and in a shorter time. Can these ideas be patented?

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There are several characteristics that a patent office will look at to determine whether the invention is patentable. These are:

  1. Novelty
  2. Inventive Step/Non-Obviousness
  3. Industrial Applicability/Utility

It should also have a patentable subject matter. You can search your innovation in the existing patent (Google Patent Search or http://patft.uspto.gov/netahtml/PTO/index.html/) list. If there is no existing patent, published application, or other published document predating your application, then yes it is patentable. But it must pass all predefined test to get patent.

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    This answer is correct other than "If there is no existing patent as per your idea then yes it is patentable". As the answer says above, your idea must be new. That is it must be new in comparison to anything published that came before you, whether or not anyone else patented it.
    – George White
    Commented Apr 24, 2014 at 20:52
  • How do you define Non-Obviousness? I find most of the claims obvious...
    – Leo
    Commented Sep 22, 2014 at 5:10
  • If you edit your answer in response to George White's comment, I would be inclined to upvote it.
    – Eric S
    Commented Feb 13, 2018 at 15:12
  • @Leo There are other questions/answers that address obviousness with respect to patents. When you say "I find most of the claims obvious..." what patent are your referring to? No patent was linked to in this question. Do you find most claims in all patents obvious?
    – Eric S
    Commented Feb 13, 2018 at 15:14

This answer relates to two issues. First, "is an idea patentable" and second, "what is an idea". Let's start with unpacking the first issue.

Can you get a patent on an idea? On a most basic level, you cannot get a patent on an idea. You get a patent which covers certain implementations of the idea. This sounds like a quibble, but in the US, for example, if you did somehow manage to cover all possible implementations of an idea, the patent can be found invalid for that reason.

Moving one level up, Can I get a patent on a method implemented using a computer? The answer is sometimes yes and sometimes no and depending on the country and the technology. The USPTO is quite confused and the issue is evolving. This link is a list of analyzed examples posted by the USPTO, some considered eligible and some not.

There is lots more where that comes from, like here. But the answer is often.

The JPO (Japan) is clear that one might get protection for business and game related ideas, see especially page 7, section (2). The test is does the invention involve "creation of a technical idea utilizing the laws of nature".

The EPO (Europe) has a special trick where the business problem being solved is ignored, leading many inventions to being trivial.

Can I get a patent on my new system? One job of a patent professional is to figure out how to get you a patent in spite of the obstacles placed by the law and the prior art. So the answer is usually, Yes.

At the practical level one should ask: Can I get a useful patent (to help my business goals)?

This is a very fact-specific question and involves a multiprong analysis, including at least:

(a) How and where IP protection would help your business – so you should understand your business and your competitors, and

(b) What IP protection is possible - taking into account prior art, law, inventions.

Idea vs. implementation This issue is at the heart of the "abstract idea" problem in the US, regarding software related inventions. Personally, I find that it is a continuum, as you add more detail, you go from a vision, to an abstract idea, to a general implementation, to a very specific and complete implementation.

If you read the law, you get a patent on a process or a machine, etc., not on the idea of one. When drafting a patent application you want to claim as abstractly as you can get away with but describe in far more detail. One way of thinking about this is: If somebody copies your idea but provides a different implementation, do you think your patent should have covered it? This is a significant dilemma in patents: The patent gives away the idea and the patent protects only some implementations thereof.

A patent is like a cookbook. Somebody reading it should be able to follow the recipe and get the result. But the law intends that the same somebody be inspired by the cookbook and only gives you protection for the particular recipes actually described in the cookbook. In patent terms, protection is only for recipes or families of recipes as described and some amount of equivalents and recipes with additional ingredients, but not for other recipes that were inspired by reading the cookbook but use different ingredients.

Example 1

If you describe and claim "f=a+b", the patent possibly will not cover "f=b+a", even though they are mathematically equivalent.

Example 2

You file a patent on a method of filtering out customers by age and somebody else filters by shoe size or height (a reasonably good proxy for child/adult distinction), is it the same idea?

Take home

(1) If you ask a patent attorney to file a patent for your implementation, he will. Possibly, to your detriment.

(2) If you want to protect your idea, you need to identify it and in particular the abstract ideas behind the implementation, understand its (business) ramifications and protect all useful implementation(s), not just your own.

(3) You have to assume you will not figure out all the implementations or ramifications of your idea before you file. In fact, really understanding your idea can take years.

  • Could you elaborate on the difference between “idea“ and “implementation“? Your interpretation of idea seems a lot narrower than mine if you say it's not possible to patent an idea.
    – user18033
    Commented Nov 2, 2018 at 15:14
  • I think this answer is a useful addition to this question. It would be even better to expand upon the issue of idea versus implementation as its focus. The way I like to explain it is the idea is what you want to do, the implementation is how you are going to do it.
    – Eric S
    Commented Nov 2, 2018 at 21:35
  • @EricShain, I amended the answer to expand more on idea vs implementation. If a more specific question came about, I could probably do better.
    – tilnow
    Commented Nov 4, 2018 at 16:19
  • I upvoted the answer. That said, it is pretty wordy and could use some editing.
    – Eric S
    Commented Nov 4, 2018 at 16:26
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    @EricShain, hope my editing improved the answer
    – tilnow
    Commented Nov 5, 2018 at 7:12

Patent laws are dependent on the jurisdictions in question. Your question does not explicitly state about which region (country) you are bothered about ? Whether do you want to know if this kind of an idea is patentable in America, Europe or Japan, etc. ? So taking a hypothetical case, the USPTO is quite liberal when compared to many other patent offices (which are more stringent about what qualifies for a patent). Your idea is essentially a business method, and hence it will be patentable in the USA. At the same time other stringent offices like EPO and IPO will not give you patents for such ideas because their patent laws explicitly state that abstract business methods are not patentable.

  • I'm afraid you can't really make the blanket statement that the poster's idea is patentable in the US. I think what you mean is a business method patent is potentially patentable, but the poster's individual idea may or may not be patentable depending on things like prior art, obviousness, etc.
    – Eric S
    Commented Jul 13, 2018 at 19:26

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